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Day 2 Draft Open Thread
by bigfatdrunkSadly, Jamaal got snatched up by the Chiefs, but we nabbed Antwuan Molden, CB, Eastern KY. Yeah, he’s somebody I can root for. Wow. Specs remind me a bit of DRC.
Edit: 2nd 3rd Rounder: Steve Slaton, RB, WV - A little on the smallish size, which scares me, but legit home run ability. A good fall-back plan after losing out on Charles. Not sure if he’ll be more than a 3rd down back, though. I would’ve preferred Harrison or Thompson instead, but Slaton was #3 for me.
Edit: And with our 4th round pick, we take: Xavier Adibi, OLB, VaTech. He’s a fast dude, but a little on the smallish size. A little bigger but a little slower than Morlon Greenwood. Scott Wright’s NFL Countdown has him as the #4 OLB in the draft.
Edit: In his mother’s basement, Tim sprouts wood as our Texans take Frank Okam, DT, The University of Texas @ Austin. Yes, I like this one as well.
Edit: Ummmm, what? Dominique Barber with our 6th? I admit to knowing nothing about the guy. He was a S at Minnesota and is slow. *shrugs*
Courtesy of b0ng, how about a bong hit of Xavier Adibi?
Edit: In the 7th, we take Alex Brink, QB, Washington State. Eh, not a ton of arm strength. I think he’ll be our 2008 version of Jared Zabransky (watch the man-crush on this one, 1Tex. Jared broke your heart.).
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April 27th, 2008 at 9:08 am
Heehee, Titans finally take a pass catcher in the third round and its a TE. Its like they know Radio can’t pass more than 4 yards with any accuracy.
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April 27th, 2008 at 9:08 am
how many TEs does a team possibly need???
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April 27th, 2008 at 9:10 am
I posted this comment in BFD’s Duane Brown thread, but I figured I’d post it again in the proper thread:
Based on his Combine scores, Molden certainly is certainly physically capable of playing in the NFL. Tons of upside with this pick. As Shake said, Smithiak usually rocks the later rounds, so I’ll breathe easy with this pick. Even though I think we got sniped again. I believe we were hoping for one of the two Charles’ - Jamaal or Godfrey - to be there for us…
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April 27th, 2008 at 9:10 am
how about marcus harrison here?
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April 27th, 2008 at 9:11 am
More on Antwaun Molden, It sounds like he “looks the part” but doesn’t play very well. He didn’t even start a game until his Senior Year. This worries me.
Kiper says he’s “raw, don’t expect much his rookie year, but in two years he could be bad ass”..paraphrasing of course. I guess you cant coach fast as hell though.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/antwaun-molden?id=2011
“Compares To: WILL ALLEN-Miami…Like Allen, there is no questioning Molden’s athletic ability and impressive looking frame. The concern is his inability to read and react to the play quickly. He is a good downhill tackler and solid man coverage defender in the short area, but struggles to close on plays when the receiver gets behind him on deep routes. He lacks natural hands for the interception and did not even start a game until his senior year. At his level of competition, he should have dominated, considering the mediocre receivers he faced in every game except the Kentucky clash. Yet, teams were successful on 48.1% of the passes thrown into his area, as he allowed 14.73 yards per pass completion (37 for 545 yards and three touchdowns). Based on athletic talent and his play with the kickoff coverage unit, he could make a nice later second day pick-up, but I feel that his downhill tackling ability would be a much better fit at free safety than playing cornerback at the next level.”
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April 27th, 2008 at 9:12 am
agreed, that guy. sounds like molden was a track guy first and a football player 2nd. still, not upset about the pick.
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also, it looks like jeremy thompson is there.
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April 27th, 2008 at 9:14 am
Steve Slaton RB West Virginia. Can I get a Hell Yeah?
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April 27th, 2008 at 9:16 am
Hell yeah!
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Molden I’m less sure about - but considering how the Ballhawk Gamecock stepped up, and with the addition of Rhodes… I’m ok with it. In Smithiak I trust. (Even the Brown pick after a night of drinking and a morning of hanging over.)
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April 27th, 2008 at 9:17 am
This draft seems a whole lot less sucky right about now
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April 27th, 2008 at 9:21 am
From Slaton’s combine page :
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/steve-slaton?id=945
Analysis
Positives: Short, but has a powerful, compact frame. … Good initial quickness. … Good vision. … Good lateral agility to slide down the line and shows the burst to explode through the line when he sees the hole. … Rare acceleration into the open field. … Soft, secure hands out of the backfield.
Negatives: Lacks prototype size and explosiveness for the position. … Good acceleration to burst for big plays but there are questions about his ability to truly breakaway from defenders in the open field. … No major injuries over his career, but has a tendency to get nicked up. … Played in an offense perfectly suited to his ability. … With defenses spread out to protect against QB Pat White and others, Slaton often didn’t have to meet his first defender until a few yards past the line of scrimmage. … Has the skill set to be a return specialist, but has limited experience here.
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April 27th, 2008 at 9:23 am
Nice pick there.
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April 27th, 2008 at 9:25 am
@Demecoshall - agreed
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April 27th, 2008 at 9:25 am
Where do we go from here? Any thoughts?
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I’m thinking some DL help, fastest available DE is fine with me. Throw in a couple of OL or two, perhaps? What thinks you people???
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April 27th, 2008 at 9:33 am
It seems that Smithiak are allowing our new but venerable coaches (Rhodes and Gibbs) to “shop for the groceries” in an effort to shore up those areas of our team (Secondary and O-line). I think we’ll see more of that as the day goes on. I do hope we throw a couple of D-linemen in there as well…
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April 27th, 2008 at 9:34 am
Red Bryant from A&M might be there in the 4th if you feel like ditching Travistar, but i don’t think his papal conversations will be as good.
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April 27th, 2008 at 9:36 am
@6 BFD….re: track star 1st
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As you know, so was Jamaal (to some extent) until last year.
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April 27th, 2008 at 9:38 am
I definitely think Gibbs is going to dig for some projects in the later rounds - 6/7. Other than that maybe depth at DL? A DE or a raw DT to spell Travistar and Amobe? LB depth? I’d say safety help but with Harrison last year another S at this point in the draft would be redundant.
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April 27th, 2008 at 9:40 am
Manningham’s off the board and I’m relieved. He strikes me as the next Dwayne Jarrett at the pro level. Nobody wants him but at some point somebody feels like they have to draft him just because he’s there.
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April 27th, 2008 at 10:05 am
What you guys think about Tommy Blake DE TCU? He had depression issues last year, when he was off of his meds, but man he can be great when he’s got his shit together. If we used a 6th or 7th round on him, it could pay off. Big risk / big reward.
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April 27th, 2008 at 10:07 am
I wouldn’t be against burning the 7th on Blake.
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I also wouldn’t mind picking up Frank Okam today.
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April 27th, 2008 at 10:23 am
Morn’ fellas. Initial thoughts: This draft was all about drafting for need. No luxury picks here. In as far as filling holes in the hull, we’re doing an adequate job. We’ll see if the Good Ship Texans stays seaworthy in the rough waters of the NFL.
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April 27th, 2008 at 10:23 am
blake’s a player. I’d love to have him. Hell, I’d be comfortable taking him here even.
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April 27th, 2008 at 10:26 am
brian johnston is also an interesting pick here.
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April 27th, 2008 at 10:28 am
Tommy Blake in the 6th or 7th would be a low risk, high reward pick. I’d love that.
I’ve got my eye on Frank Okam in Round Four. If it happens, I’ll weep with joy. Well, if I was hydrated enough to cry, anyway.
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April 27th, 2008 at 10:47 am
Xavier Adibidi is a nice pick great day so far
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April 27th, 2008 at 10:48 am
Welcome Xavier Adibi
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Overall: Adibi arrived at Virginia Tech in 2003 and was redshirted. In his first three seasons (2004-’06), he appeared in 32 games and recorded 176 tackles (18 for losses), eight sacks, six interceptions and four forced fumbles. As a senior, he started all 14 games at right inside linebacker and turned in 115 tackles (12 for losses), three sacks, a forced fumble, two interceptions and five pass breakups. He also had three career touchdowns with the Hokies (two interception returns, one fumble return). Adibi missed four games in 2004 because of a torn biceps muscle, which required surgery. He also missed much of one game in 2006 because of a shoulder stinger. Adibi isn’t stout against the run and his recognition skills are adequate at best. However, he is a fluid and sudden athlete that excels in pursuit and continues to add bulk to his frame. He can make plays
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April 27th, 2008 at 10:55 am
Do we have some sort of connection to Frank Beamer or VT? It seems we’ve picked up several players from there under this Houston regime. That said, I really like the Adibi pick. Great guy to (hopefully) to fill Clark’s absence.
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April 27th, 2008 at 10:56 am
So can we make it through the whole draft without drafting a Gamecock?
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April 27th, 2008 at 11:07 am
Gamecock. Hehehehe.
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April 27th, 2008 at 11:08 am
VT purchased SC’s draft alottment in Houston this year.
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April 27th, 2008 at 11:15 am
I’m diggin’ the day so far. Our draft gurus seem back in form. I’ve decided to pretend that we didn’t have a 1st round pick this year, and we started our draft by getting Brown in the middle of the 2nd. That’s helped. That and all the bong hits…
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April 27th, 2008 at 11:16 am
Defensive depth is always a good thing. Sounds like a bargain in the 4th, too.
I’m with those here who’re looking for DL help from here out. Everyone at this level is a bit of a project, but I’m confident that Rhodes can groom whoever we get.
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April 27th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Seriously, the youtube video in my name is all you need to know about Adibi. I think a lot of people (including myself) thought he’d get snagged in the 2nd, definitely no later than the 3rd. I think he will easily continue in the long line of excellent 4th round picks.
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April 27th, 2008 at 11:49 am
Well it looks like things are getting better after saturday. We’re adressing the need. Im not sure about Adibi though. We couldve taken a DE or DL and still have adibi on the board for the next round. Slaton was a good pick though im afraid we’re going to end up cutting him after the pre-season
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April 27th, 2008 at 11:51 am
I say a DE for our fifth rounder and quite possibly a WR for sixth. Im still not too sold on Jacoby as our 3rd WR
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April 27th, 2008 at 11:52 am
@Jordan …or we may end up cutting Ahman Green…
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April 27th, 2008 at 11:53 am
Call me crazy but i think he’s got another year left in him. Remember when we were gonna cut Dayne nearing the end of the 2006 season I think then he started playing well. The same thing might happen.
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April 27th, 2008 at 11:57 am
It seems increasingly less likely that any sort of draft deal for Sage is gonna happen, and I’m glad. I think we’ll deal him in the preseason after somebody’s QB bites it, and we’ll get a better deal.
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April 27th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Yeahhh maybe we’ll get that second rounder that we wanted this year for next year
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April 27th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Kubes on ESPN after picking our 5th around 1:20pm CST says Texans Official blog http://www.houstontexans.com/news/blogs.asp?blogger_id=16
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April 27th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Hello all! I missed all the first day and up to now because I here: http://www.wavehunters.com/elsalvador/elsal_Las_Olas.aspwas
But from what I read so far, BFD owes me a six pack!
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April 27th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Okam’s on board, so our longhorn quota has been met
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April 27th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Allright I am officially hiring someone to break Charley Casserlys legs. He openly admitted to not being in the Draft room at all times(So that’s how Travis got drafted no one was in the room and The NFL stuck us with him)
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April 27th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Your description is apt, BFD. I’m probably going to get grounded for making a mess of great-grandma’s quilt, but I wasn’t about to befoul any of my George Lucas autographed memorabilia.
I love Smithiak so much it hurts right now.
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April 27th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Say goodbye to TJ everyone!
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April 27th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Wow. I take that back. After watching the Adibi video on you tube he looks like another DeMeco. Wow. This is getting me so excited for the next season.
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April 27th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Hey, just woke up. First, I would have preferred Tashard Choice who, according to Lance Z, was the best late round running back fit for a ZBS; in any case, Steve Slaton is very good and he can work in with whomever is given the chance to start (healthy Ahman or healthy Taylor).
This is a huge homer pick but I thought our 6th round pick should have been Simeon Castille out of Alabama instead of the safety from Minnesota just because Castille can play CB or FS depending on need. We can still pick up a pass rusher like Wallace Gilberry in round 7 though. Basically as long as we pick an Alabama player I’ll call it a good draft.
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April 27th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
@Thatguy: bong hits? Already this morning? Hate.
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@ADF: Just woke up??? Hate.
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Ahhh, the joys of kids.
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April 27th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
OK, for our last pick, is Vince Young still available?
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April 27th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Wash St. QB Brink? I’m clueless about this one….
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April 27th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
a qb?!
But I thought we already had a third…..
Sage being traded?
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April 27th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
maybe everyone got a “pet pick” and this was Kubiak’s?
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April 27th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
I don’t think it means a trade is pending, Jordan. Definitely not with the Vikes, at least, after they picked up JD Booty this morning.
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I think he winds up on the practice squad, and I’m starting to think that we carry 3 QBs on the active roster.
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April 27th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
It’s the practice squad for Brink if he’s lucky. I’m gonna stick by my prediction that we deal Sage during camp to somebody who’s QB goes down to injury or doesn’t live up to expectations. He’s a perfect choice for team that has that happen to them…
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April 27th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Seriously, no one has drafted any Alabama players? I realize the rest of you don’t care but come on, DJ Hall is a very good wide receiver and Simeon Castille was thought of as one of the better safety prospects.
Oh well, I still say the Texans should bring Wallace Gilberry into camp if he’s not drafted, he’s alot like his ex-teammate Mark Andersen who was runner up DROY two years ago with the Broncos and could be a good situational pass rusher.
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April 27th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Just saw someone on ESPN make a great point that Steve Slaton as a small quick one cut back is very similar to a player that Alex Gibbs had for three years as a top rusher - Warrick Dunn. I had been iffy on the pick before and preferred Choice, now I am incredibly excited.
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April 27th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
*shrugs* Sorry, ADF, you’re on your own with the Alabama references. I found them, well, boring to watch last year.
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My worries about Slaton are two-fold: he’s small, and was he the product of a system? He seemed to operate in space quite a bit, and the ZBS means hitting holes. I really, really wanted Charles and think he would’ve been perfect, but Slaton was a great fall-back.
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April 27th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
If Brown pans out at LT, our o-line should be able to spring Slaton for some big runs. If not, he’s going to get beaten up trying to run between the tackles. Regardless though, I think it was a good pick. I heard somebody compare him to Kevin Faulk, and I think I like that. He’s quicker than Faulk, but has soft hands and should be able to accelerate off the screen pass.
We need a player like that, especially when we play teams like Tennesee who are going to shut down the line of scrimmage. Slaton ought to be able to make them respect the run/screen to the outside. And we might finally be able to stop running that stupid flat-pass to Jameel Cook. Imagine if every one of those plays had turned into an eight-yard gain instead of a fumble?
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April 27th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
We painted ourselves into a corner without a 2nd rounder and ended up having to reach in the first, but I think rocked Day 2. Molden, Slaton, and Adibi are all quality guys, at least on paper. Overall, I say B+.
KC,PIT,CAR,& DAL(spit)all had good drafts this year.
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April 27th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
If Dominique Barber has even half the amount of raw, pcp style intensity of his brother, he’ll be a special teams all star by his second year. I’m intrigued.
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April 27th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
P.S. Jared is playin behind Big Ben in Pit…that ain’t too bad.
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April 27th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
and: With their final pick, the Texans took 6-2, 212-pound Washington State quarterback Alex Brink, who passed for 10,913 yards and 76 touchdowns during his collegiate career. Both marks are Cougar records. Hmm, 7th round, alright, he sounds resonable. But what about our space eating punter?