Addressing Lee’s concerns
Jul 10, 2008 Bud Adams is evil, Fuck the Cowboys, God hates ugly, Vince Young can't read this post
Lee:
And there are two things I don’t get as a Texans fan. 1. Why should I hate the Cowboys? We don’t play them, the Oilers didn’t play them (yes I know it occasionally happens). They aren’t in our conference and are a Texas team. 2. Why do I have to hate VY? He’s the greatest college football player of all time. And he wanted to be a Texan.
These are great, valid questions. Allow me to give them a shot.
Why should I hate the Cowboys? We don’t play them, the Oilers didn’t play them (yes I know it occasionally happens). They aren’t in our conference and are a Texas team.
It’s more than just the wank-infested Governor’s Cup. Oh yes, it’s much deeper.
First of all, any team that appoints itself “America’s Team” deserves constant ridicule. Secondly, they are a team of felons, capable only of child rape and snorting the sidelines. Next, it’s the arrogance of their fans. Here’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard on a sports talk show: “If the Cowboy’s don’t win the Super Bowl, you can slap a tortilla on my head and call me papa.” If that doesn’t deserve scorn, I really don’t know what does.
Finally, this is where it gets personal. Before the Cowboys moved camp to Austin, Austin was an Oiler town. Deeply. It wasn’t even close. When those pricks moved here, you suddenly saw Cowfucker shit everywhere. It was like rats and the plague covered in blue and silver. Not only that, they were so fair-weathered, none of them could’ve named a player outside of Troy-boy. It was horrible.
As for VY? I have only one thing to say about that:
It’s not VY’s fault. In fact, I feel sorry for the poor guy. I love VY with all my heart…before he was drafted by the asshole pictured above. But anybody, no exceptions, who plays for Satan’s tutor, deserves nothing less than my complete and total hatred and scorn.
Personally, rooting for/against VY? Negotiable. Hating the BE-SFs? Not. Hating the Cowfuckers? Not. There are few things I am emotional about, but you’ve hit on….well, probably both of them right here.
(For the record, if you can find one football-lovin’ Houstonian who wouldn’t kick Satan’s tutor in the nutz [older than 35], I’ll give you a dollar. He’s easily the most despised person I’ve ever seen.)
HTH,
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PS: Consider this an “Open Hate Thread.”
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July 10th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
You don’t have to hate the Cowboys. I’ve got enough hate for them to make up for however many people you can name who don’t. FUCK the Cowboys. It’s just like BFD said… except, even in HOUSTON there was Cowboy bullshit everywhere during the Aikman era - and eighty percent of those wagon-jumping cock-breathed assholes couldn’t even tell me who the Cowboy’s one victory in their 1-15 season was against. THAT was the true test of the Crack’n Rape fans of that era.
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Cowboy fans will say it’s jealousy, whatever. It’s not that. It’s because the fans are SO full of themselves, and SO full of shit, for the most part. Of course there are exceptions - ahem - the entire family I married in to are Cowboy fans. Yeah, it’s awkward at Thanksgiving when I root my ass off for the opposition. LOL
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Next, I’ll always love VY for his time at UT, but he’s the enemy now. You’d have to have been a hardcore Oiler fan to begin to understand. Not only does he play for the ex-Oilers, but it’s a bitter division rival. Had he gone to the Saints or whoever else, it wouldn’t be as big of a deal - but his posturing about how the Texans made a mistake, and how he’s going to make us pay for it - that just stokes the fire, and makes me look forward to watching Mario wear his ass as a hat.
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July 10th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Amen bro. Here’s my 2 cents:
http://www.imatexan.com/profiles/Texans_Chick/profile_blogs.asp?POST_ID=140
It’s doesn’t exactly reflect my full loathing for the Cowboys, but it is what I thought was acceptable for a website that kids might go to. I find it amusing that it lives there.
I like that BE-SF has an abbreviation.
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July 10th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
Notice the resemblance of Bud with this guy:
http://www.pbase.com/scatts/image/89242364.jpg
You never have seen them in the same room together, have you?
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July 10th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
And because you can’t say enough lovely things about the Cowboy fanbase:
http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/category/texans/2006/10/11/do-the-dallas-cowboys-have-the-most-obnoxious-fans-in-the-nfl/
http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/category/nfl/2006/09/03/things-nfl-fans-shouldnt-view-while-eating-breakfast/
This last posts talks some about those who are Titans/Texans fans and Cowboy/Texans fans:
http://blogs.chron.com/fanblogtexans/2006/06/houston_texans_fans_unite_1.html
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July 10th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
@Steph: I was thought he looked like that certain uncle…you know the one…he’d ask you to climb on his lap…he’d give you a hug…then a nice pat on the butt…and then send you off.
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THEN, you noticed that your wallet and watch were gone and somebody took a credit card out in your name.
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July 10th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
@DiehardChris: Gawd, I can’t believe I forgot about that, DHC. It’s become a standard line for me: “Oh, you like the Spurs now? You a cowboys fan, too?” The most fair-weathered fans this side of Atlanta.
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July 10th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
I think you can knock that age down from 35 to at least 25 or so.
Despite being a huge fan, the first and only Oilers game I was able to attend was their last Monday night game (I was about 11 I think). I was shocked by two things: how long my piss trough neighbors were able to pee (beer’s properties were unknown to me) and the pure hatred of Bud Adams. I learned a bunch of new ways to curse that day.
That was 3 years before they left, but the hate seed had been planted. It was a fully formed blossom of unmitigated hate by ‘96. I remember being very jealous of a classmates “Tennessee Traitors” t-shirt which showed a broken oil rig.
Anyway, I hate Bud Adams and have since I was 11 years old. My dislike of VY is confusing considering how much I once loved him, but that is the evil power of my hatred of Bud Adams.
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July 10th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
BUD ADAMS IS A COCKSUCKER. PERIOD. I WOULD GIVE MY LEFT NUT TO SHOVE A RUNNING CHAINSAW UP HIS ASS, CRACK HIM ACROSS THE KNEES WITH A PIPE SO THAT HE FALLS BACK INTO A TUB OF LEMON JUICE. AFTER THAT, I’D TURN A COUPLE OF GERBELS LOOSE IN HIS ASS, GIVE THEM A 20 SECOND HEAD START THEN TURN THE BADGER LOOSE.
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I HOPE YOU DIE. FUCKER.
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YOURS IN CHRIST,
STACY
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July 11th, 2008 at 12:31 am
Yeah fuck the Cowboys.
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In San Antonio, its all about the Cowboys on the radio — ALL about the Cowboys. Even before the Spurs playoff run was over, they would devote a segment or two to Cowboy’s football.
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In fact, I really don’t know what it’s like to hear a sports talk radio show where the Texans are the focal point. No clue. None.
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That’s why I want to start a San Antonio area watch party. If we have a united front, we can make waves here in SA. Fuck yeah - we’ll be like the Bloods in south central LA. Crips outnumbered the Bloods something like five to one, but the Bloods remained strong because they stayed united. That will be us.
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Battle Red Bloods - Yay yay.
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July 11th, 2008 at 7:28 am
Fuck the Cowboys. I really don’t understand how anyone could NOT hate the Cowboys — regardless of whether or not you’re a Texan fan. Jerry Jones deserves to rot in hell. It’s like a fucking halfway house for the NFL. They claim to be America’s team. Who the fuck gave them that name?! Just because they have a fucking star?! And their fans openly welcomed TO after he disrespected that star as a 49er. No team loyalty whatsoever. If they go 2-14 this year, I’ll bet you don’t see any more Cowboy fans. Fuck the Cowboys. Fuck Jerry Jones. Fuck their fans. Fuck their players. Fuck their cheerleaders (actually, that sounds like a good idea).
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As for VY? Let me put it to you guys as someone who has no affiliation (be it as a alumni, fan, or casual acquaintance) with UT. Fuck him. I never had any strong feelings for him in college and I wanted nothing to do with him as a pro. In my mind, he’s just another cock smoker who plays for the BE-SF. My guess is that if he didn’t go to UT all the UT guys would feel the same way. Sure he’s a great athlete, but so was Matt Jones and what did he turn out to be other than another coke snorting reject. VY is nothing more than another overrated, gay retard of a cock gobbler who plays for vile shitbag who ranks just below the ball of pubes clogging the drain of a crack whore’s bathtub. May they all choke on a scrotum.
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I feel soooo much better. Thanks BFD!
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July 11th, 2008 at 7:41 am
@Vega: That was an epic post! Tip of the hat to you, sir.
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July 11th, 2008 at 8:06 am
Well now I feel like I’m late to the party. I have nothing but unreserved hatred for Bud Adams - and I’m under your 35 year age quota, BFD. The only Oilers game I made it to as a kid involved the Steelers and Chris Chandler at quarterback. I’ve never felt hate like that emanate from a fan base. There was nothing so sweetly poetic as watching those pole-smokers fall 1 yard short in the Super Bowl. I hope Bud Adams chokes on a barrel of dicks and dies.
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As for the Cock-gobbling Cowfuckers I will say only two things. (1) Why hate them? Because I’m from Houston - and Dallas is white trash with money. Everything from Dallas sucks big ole’ sweaty donkey balls. The Cowfuckers just lead the parade of suck. (2) How do you think we’re able to export so much bull semen to Iran? Cowfucker fans.
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July 11th, 2008 at 8:08 am
For VY, my reasons for hating him require no rationalization. Every time I hear “home-town hero” I think “fuck him, he played for Madison and I hate those fuckers.” He has always played for teams that I consider to be bitter rivals of the ones I support and he can’t seem to find a way to lose, even when he plays like crap. Plus that asshole has a tattoo of his name on his back, exactly as it appears on his jersey. That is easily the second dumbest tattoo of all time, after the guy with the patriot’s helmet for a head.
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July 11th, 2008 at 8:09 am
@Vega: That post is to DGDB&D what LOTR is to fiction literature. Eric summed it up nicely. EPIC.
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You’re the new Matt.
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July 11th, 2008 at 8:36 am
Well that’ll teach me to click through my email and comment without checking for updated posts first. Here’s my take from the other thread:
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@Vega: Well done. Very well done, in fact.
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@stacy: Is this where the old Matt gets euthanized?
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July 11th, 2008 at 8:46 am
@Vega: “Fuck their cheerleaders (actually, that sounds like a good idea).” That’s the ONLY reason they are “America’s Team”…it’s the booty squad…nothing more. Well said Vega!
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July 11th, 2008 at 8:49 am
@SOLIS: I usually go to Fatso’s on Bandera to watch (gasp) Chiefs and KU games. There is a nice variety of teams that are represented there, and the fans are pretty loyal. I can’t recall a Texans table being there, but it doesn’t mean that there wasn’t one…I just never paid any attention. Watcha think? I’m all for an SA chapter!
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July 11th, 2008 at 8:57 am
In the same line of thinking here is why Titans fans are along the same wavelength as cowboy fans
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080711/SPORTS01/807110396/1027
It amazes me how dumb blindly loyal someone can be towards a player who by all accounts is a gigantic asshole and trouble follows him everywhere.
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July 11th, 2008 at 9:03 am
@Phil: Re: the 35 and over thing: I’m just saying there’s a 100% chance of hate if you are over 35. It’s about 99% under 35. Picking nits, here.
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July 11th, 2008 at 9:19 am
@bigfatdrunk: One year before eligibilty to AARP, I approve of this message…[sob]
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July 11th, 2008 at 9:24 am
“America’s Team Logic” = same reason I cannot fucking stand Notre Dame. These last few years have been yummy.
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Regarding VY, BFD & I have already discussed how our viewpoint here is very similar. To help the Ags in the audience understand the feeling, what went through your head/heart in the 90’s when the beloved Dat became one of Jerry’s
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July 11th, 2008 at 9:40 am
@Shake: The same thing that I feel now about Martellus Bennett. Shit. If anything it’s much harder for VY fans because we actually need his team to do poorly for ours to do well, unlike the Cowboys. If your having trouble finding the hate, just remember that he eats kittens in his spare time. Or something like that.
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July 11th, 2008 at 9:41 am
I have a somewhat different perspective on Cowboys fans. Unfortunately, I moved to Dallas a little over a year and a half ago (job / woman, don’t ask). The local fans actually aren’t that bad. I’ve had some intelligent football conversations with fans here. When I wear my Texans gear to bars or on game days when the Texans are on the road (I still drive home for every home game) Cowboy fans here typically are supportive of the Texans and I tend to get comments such as ‘hey you guys are looking good this year’, ‘getting better’, etc. It’s my observation that the fans here are fairly normal and not that annoying, for Cowboy fans that is. It’s all of the bandwagon fans that don’t live in Dallas and have never been to Dallas that feel like they have to prove their fandom, that are the most annoying cocksuckers on the face of the earth. Don’t get me wrong, I can’t wait to move back home to Houston (I could write for an hour about why Dallas people suck). But yeah, fuck the Cowboys and Bud Adams and especially any losers from Houston who still root for the BE-SF’s. I don’t understand how anyone from Houston could still root for that team.
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July 11th, 2008 at 9:45 am
@James: That also supports my statement of Dallas being the NFL halfway house. They’ll take anyone. I wish there were a “Dallas” in my industry. I’d go knock up strippers and run down people with my car if they pissed me off because I know I could always get a second (third, fourth, fifth) chance with Dallas.
@Others: Thanks all, but it was just one man’s vent. I could never be another Matt. I’ve never photographed a penis in my life and I don’t know that I’d be any good at it.
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July 11th, 2008 at 9:47 am
@DemecoShallInheritTheEarth: I don’t think I’ll hate VY. But being a BE-SF has made it so much easier to make fun of him.
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But I cannot stand some of the blind love that is paid to him by other UT alum/fans. You’ll actually find me to be the one arguing with folks at Burnt Orange Nation regarding VY’s performance in the NFL. If he does well (and Bud’s team still loses), then great. But I won’t sit idly by and allow folks to say he’s a good/great NFL QB. Because he hasn’t been.
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I may love what he did as a Horn, but things changed for the present/future 2 picks after Mario.
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On another note, I hope Barry Switzer dies in the same accident with Marino and Travis.
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July 11th, 2008 at 9:48 am
Cowgirls fans = Douchebags. Can’t be any plainer than that.
When I was a kid I didn’t really care one way or another about the Cowfucks. All I knew was that I bled Columbia Blue. However, I was in a family full of obnoxious Cowfuck fans. So, one Christmas when I was about six years old, those bastards gave me one of those full Cowshit uniforms (even with the helmet) that they used to sell. I flatly refused it. I think that’s the one thing that I’ve done in my life that I’m most proud of.
Ever since then - Fuck. Them. All. Just the typical shit those fuckers pull.
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July 11th, 2008 at 9:52 am
@tyler: Great point. I feel this way about a lot of bandwagon fanbases, ie 90s Bulls fans that stopped rooting once Jordan left or that stupid “Red Sox Nation” crap. That’s probably the biggest reason I hate the Patriots, their whole fanbase is people who didn’t start rooting until after the Superbowls started coming.
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July 11th, 2008 at 10:49 am
I lived in Dallas during the 1995 season. Which the Cowboys ended up winning the Super Bowl. Fuck I hate Emmitt. And Barry Switzer. You’re cool, Michael Irvin… but fuck the Cowboys. And their fans.
The Oilers died on January 3, 1993. I have no obligation to like the Titans. And Fuck Bud Adams.
Vince is a good athlete. And he seems like an okay person. But he says some really dumb shit. And he does even dumber things sometimes.
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:20 am
@mgamaguche: Man, giving a Oiler fan kid a Cowboy uni for Christmas is child abuse.
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I’m a UT alum, and I wish VY was a Jet. But I knew that Bud Adams wouldn’t let that happen. I predicted VY as a Titan in the late fall his junior year. After he was drafted, Adams flew VY to Houston and parade him around a mall. It’s yet another way that Adams wanted to stick it to Houston.
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VY is in the perfect situation for him. He is at a team where the owner believes he can do no wrong and will restructure the team to let Vince be Vince. They got a new OC and have a strong defense. He will play there until he is done broken down, and then Bud will kick him to the curb unceremoniously as he does with all his high profile QBs.
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If VY was in Houston, it would have been a bad fit for Kubiak’s offense which demands a QB have pinpoint precision, follow the play, and read defense. There was a time that I thought that VY would have been a good Texan, but my head knows that is not true.
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:37 am
@DemecoShallInheritTheEarth: Amen dude. I lived in Chicago during the Bulls winning years and I fucking hated those guys. Now, you can’t find a Bulls fan anywhere.
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July 11th, 2008 at 11:58 am
@Foomey: I like Champps on Huebner - but we’ll talk about it once the season rolls around. The San Antonio chapter is born.
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I don’t have to get initiated into the gang because I came up with it. Check the following pdf for more information. Page three has the initiation rules: http://www.sanantonio.gov/sapd/pdf/awareness.pdf
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July 11th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
@SOLIS: As I was reading your comment…I really, really thought you were going to link to Liston’s “How to start a gang” post at the end. But maybe you haven’t seen it, so I’ll search for it and post…..b/c everyone deserves to read that on a Friday.
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July 11th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
And the follow-through:
http://introducingliston.blogspot.com/2007/09/join-my-gang-and-have-all-respect.html
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July 11th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
I think you hit this right on the head. The only thing you are missing is advocating viloence on the Bud Adam cocksucker fans who show up to Reliant wearing Titans gear and call themselves Oiler fans. There is nothing, nothing, in the world that these people can contribute to soceity. We need to beat some sense in them, or they should not be allowed to breed. Last time I looked 45 runs both ways so get the fuck out of our town.
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July 11th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Hey, Bud. George Jones called. He wants his hair back.
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July 11th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
@SOLIS: But as the first member, aside from yourself, do I have to get initiated? I’m a tough broad…I’ll take the “get the shit kicked out of you” option…will give me more street cred.
@Shake: I bet you practice wall-leaning on a daily basis…don’t you? Don’t lie.
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July 11th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
@SOLIS: Is that the Champps near the movie theatres? I always get turned around in this town.
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July 11th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
@Foomey: “I always get turned around in this town.”
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That one is just waayyy too easy.
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July 11th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
@Shake: Just like me…right?
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July 11th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
@Shake: Stacy has the night off, so allow me to hurl the insults at myself.
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July 11th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
@stacy:
Tell us how you really feel. And I completely agree with you and share the feelings.
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July 11th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
@bigfan77070: stacy has some serious issues with keeping things bottled up. One day he’s just going to explode.
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July 12th, 2008 at 2:23 am
I would be down for Champs on Huebner. The Lion and the Rose on 410 & Blanco is a good place to watch Rugby, my other sport, but I’ve never been there to watch football. I’d be down to meet up where ever in San Antonio - not enough Texans fans over here at UTSA.
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July 12th, 2008 at 11:16 am
@Foomey: Yeah, Champps is there near the movie theater, the flying saucer, um… a new balance store. It’s off of I-10 and Huebner. What side of town are you on?
@Huth: Cool - I’ll probably start a recruiting forum for San Antonians at BRB. The first rounds on me.
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July 12th, 2008 at 11:17 am
Oh yeah and fuck the Cowboys. Man, I love saying that.
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July 12th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
As a native Houstonian, I don’t see how it is possible to NOT hate both the Cowboys and anything even closely related to Bud Adams. Cowboys fans are possibly the biggest bunch of douchebags out there.
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And for those guys who still think that VY was a better pick than Mario (I’m looking at YOU little Dickie), I have a bag of my sweaty pubes that I’ve collected. I’m going to be sprinkling them in your beer. Enjoy!
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July 12th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
@Shake: But I cannot stand some of the blind love that is paid to him by other UT alum/fans.
That is unpossible! There is no such thing as blind love for VY. Our love for him is very well understood and far from blind. He has done absolutely nothing to lose that love except play for the BE-SFs. He’s a stand up guy in every respect.
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July 12th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Alright, time to defend my point, in number form - Lee Style
1. There is no one on this entire earth that hates Bud Adams more than me. And I’m serious, some of you may hate him equally, but other than me, have any of you told him Fuck You to his face like I have? I didn’t think so, there is no one that hates him more. I would have stabbed him, but my mom was already pissed off enough at me.
2. I worked all year round doing odd jobs on farms and ranches and mowing fields for people to buy my season tickets starting when I was 12. I loved the Oilers more than anything in my life. I was absolutely devestated when Warren Moon was traded. I called in and cancelled my season tickets immediately, bc even then I know the reason he did it. He wanted the Oilers to suck so he could move them.
3. The Oilers are dead, the Titans are the bane of my existence. In not one single way do I like the Titans.
4. I like the Cowboys, I’m not a fan, but I like Texas teams in general and would root for the Cowboys over and NFC team (Vikings during the Moon years and shortly after being the exception)
5. Some of you need to dial down the hate, and I mean a lot. I’ve never found a fan base that was worth a shit that didn’t have fans that I loathed, Texans fans included.
6. I honestly have no problem with people hating the Cowboys. I have a HUGE problem with every asshole that thinks they are cute talking shit to Cowboys fans. I took my brother in law to a Texans game, he’s born and raised in Dallas and is obviously a Cowboys fan. He wore a Cowboys shirt to the game and there were literally 5 different groups of people that threatened to kick his ass. If you have ever done that, you are an absolute douchenozzle, no exceptions. You have no reason at all to care what fans of other teams wear.
7. I hate it when fans of my team act like douchenozzles, absolutely hate it. Act with some damn class. You don’t have to act like you’ve been there before, but at least act like your Mom taught you how to act like you’ve been there before.
8. I have mad man-love for VY. He brought my school and team a championship in the inarguable greatest NCAA game of all time. In my opinion for one year he was the greatest college football player of all time. That’s a lot to forget about even though he’s with the BE-SFs.
9. Shake spoke of blind hate, and after replying, I do kind of get what he was saying. But in return, what about the blind hate for VY? He did have a good rookie year, no matter how much some want to act like he sucked. He also has the worst receiving core in the NFL, so I cut him slack on his stats. I just don’t get the hate for him for supposed adults. I get that in teenagers, but not us.
10. FUCK THE TITANS AND BUD ADAMS
11. I don’t cheer for VY, I hate the Titans, but that doesn’t mean I, or any one else needs to hate VY. He did nothing wrong. Matt, you said he talked trash about the Texans. What would you have done if you purposely left school early bc you thought you’d get to play for your hometown team? I’m pretty sure you’d be pissed. Now, add that to the fact that VY was young, but still knew that the team that drafted him was stolen from him as a kid. Do you think he wasn’t or didn’t have a right to be a little bitter? Plus, what did you think he would say?
12. Bud Adams can die in a fire for all I care, hell that’s a great idea
13. If anyone ever insinuates I’m a Titans fan again, I’m just gonna snap
14. You were not an Oilers fan if you are a Titans fan, you are a traitor, plain and simple
15. This seems like a good place to end this list. In recap, I still don’t get the Cowboys hate, or the douchnozzle tactics to try and show Cowboys fans that you hate them and I will not ever hate VY, ever.
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July 12th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Oh ya, not a single one of us was happy with the Mario Williams pick when it was first announced. I for one was pissed. I can admit that I was VERY wrong. I’m ecstatic that Mario is a Texan. That’s one of the reasons I find the VY hate so ridiculous. While some of you may have never liked VY (mostly only Aggies and Sooners), you had to at least respect him in college.
Making fun of him in no way bothers me though. He’d even admit he’s not the brightest lightbulb in the socket.
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July 12th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
@Lee - UofTOrange: Oh, I was. In fact, of all my Texans friends who actually *knew* football, we were all huge fans of the pick. It was those who only peripherally knew football or were UT homers that didn’t like it. I remember getting into some verbal sparring with another table at the BW3 in midtown during pre-season. They all wanted Reggie Bust.
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July 12th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
@all: I believe the new, appropriate spelling is “dushbag.”
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July 12th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
@Lee - UofTOrange: Oops, that wasn’t a shot at anybody. Just saying.
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July 12th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
@SOLIS: I live on the NW side of town….just outside loop 1604 and Culebra…where the REALLY BIG NEW DICK’S is being built. I love saying that more than “Fuck the Cowboys.” Sorry. I’m totally up for driving wherever…makes no difference to me. It’s all about the people.
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July 12th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
@Lee - UofTOrange: Incorrect. I was incredibly happy with the Mario pick and thought it was the smartest thing Casserly ever did. I knew VY was a horrible fit, I thought Bush was overrated, and I get a hardon for massive DEs.
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So, yeah, there was at least one person.
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July 12th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
@Lee - UofTOrange: If I purposely left school early to play for a team that just went 2-14, I’d wonder if I was smart enough to cross the street alone. If I talked shit after they (rightly) took a much better player who was also a much better fit, I’d not be surprised when the fanbase hated me for being a dick.
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July 12th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
@Matt: “, and I get a hardon for massive DEs”….Like anyone even doubted that, Matt.
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July 12th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
If that was the case then you were strictly doing it off of combine numbers and not his college performance. If they didn’t draft VY (who I fully admit is not a fit for Kubiak’s system, but neither is Carr), then I wanted them to trade back. I was happy either way. I was not in any way happy with the Mario pick. I freely admit I was wrong. And I know TONS of Texans fans, not a single one of them that I knew at the time wanted Mario, ZERO of them.
I love massive DEs too, but his college performance borderlined great but never got there. He was and is a freak of nature, I’ve gone on record many times saying I hate workout wonders, and that is exactly what he was. He just also happened to have more under the hood that wasn’t obvious to even most knowledgable football fans
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July 12th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
@Matt: That doesn’t make sense to me. He talked shit because he was hurt, that’s a player that cares and someone I want on my team. He’s not a fit for Kubiak’s system, but the zone read can work in the NFL and I feel like Kubiak’s system could be melded with it.
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July 12th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Opps, meant to say, the no VY pick was the right one and changing the system would not have been the right decision, just saying it was completely possible at the time.
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July 12th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
@Lee - UofTOrange: Personally, it was a matter of taking…I guess, the best way to put it is not taking the wrong guy. Bush sucked. He was easy to take out. VY? More difficult, especially as a Horn. You knew Mario was rough, but that he was a workout freak with drive? At a core, non-glamorous position? I dunno. He appealed/s to me on so many levels.
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However, on the football level, I’ve always been an “inside-out” kinda guy. I want to win in the trenches, first and foremost. And, more than anything, I want defense.
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That’s why I have a secret man-crush on Muschamp. BOOM! MOTHER FUCKER!!!!
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July 13th, 2008 at 12:40 am
@Lee - UofTOrange: So you get what I was saying now, w/ the blind love in regards to “He was fucking awesome as a Horn, so he’s the bestest NFL QB to ever play & should’ve already been inducted to the hall”? I’m no literary wizard, so let me know if I needs to ’splain it s’more.
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July 13th, 2008 at 7:21 am
@bigfatdrunk: Boom MotherFucker indeed! I’m not telling anyone, but I think the Horns are going to be VERY good this year. I love that we are flying under the radar.
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July 13th, 2008 at 7:24 am
@Shake: Yep, I reread it, and iz haz da readin comprahinzion now.
I do think that blind love of a lot of Horns fans (and honestly, I can’t blame them, he won us an NC, and a non-mythical one at that) has made a lot of people go the complete opposite way which is equally annoying to me. He’s far from a terrible quarterback in the NFL and has absolutely no weapons. My dream is that he finds his way away from the BESFs, but unfortunately that cannot happen for 5 years
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July 13th, 2008 at 7:24 am
Or rather 3 more years including this one
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July 13th, 2008 at 7:26 am
@Matt - In regards to an earlier point that VY doesn’t fit Kubiak’s system: I always hoped that the QB coach in Kubes would come out and fix VYs deficiencys in his system. Can you imagine VY as a super accurate NFL QB with all the other tools that no other NFL QB has and he does?
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July 13th, 2008 at 9:34 am
@Lee - UofTOrange: No, I wasn’t basing my decision off the Combine; I was going off which player I thought would be a better pro. Mario’s skill-set was perfect for the role he would be playing in the NFL; VY’s wasn’t and still is not. If anything, Mario has turned out to be better than even I had hoped while Young has been worse than I expected him to be.
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Also, he’s not THAT far from being an awful NFL QB. His INT-TD ratio is ridiculous, etc. Not saying he’s THE worst, but you make it sound like he’s top-half or something.
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As for imagining Vince as an accurate passer, I can picture it about as well as I can picture Vince writing a Pulitzer-prize winning palindromic novel. In Latin.
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July 13th, 2008 at 9:36 am
@bigfatdrunk: However, on the football level, I’ve always been an “inside-out” kinda guy. I want to win in the trenches, first and foremost. And, more than anything, I want defense.
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Add this to the list of reasons I like you.
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July 13th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
@Matt: Isn’t VY an “inside-out” kind of guy in the trenches?
(Oops! Or is it while dancing with other naked men and watching the world go by thru the bottom of a tequila bottle? Damn this old age shit…)
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July 13th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
@Eric: @Matt: @bigfatdrunk: Can I just say….I can’t wait for this season to start. It is only with your descriptions that my nipples are hard just thinking about football. “Or is it while dancing with other naked men and watching the world go by thru the bottom of a tequila bottle?”, “As for imagining Vince as an accurate passer, I can picture it about as well as I can picture Vince writing a Pulitzer-prize winning palindromic novel. In Latin.”, “That’s why I have a secret man-crush on Muschamp. BOOM! MOTHER FUCKER!!!”
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I’m in for quite a treat…aren’t I !?!
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July 13th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
@Foomey: Yes, but you probably consider anything other than stacy a treat. {cue rimshot}
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July 13th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
BTW Matt, he was hella accurate in college, just an FYI
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July 13th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
@Shake: Don’t you know it. I’m searching for some fresh meat to taunt.
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July 13th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
@Lee - UofTOrange: So was Carr. In fact, Carr and Young have very similar college % numbers, 62.8 for Carr, 61.8 for Vince. Clearly college accuracy is not the best guide for picking a good quarterback. And put me in the camp of people who were happy with the Mario pick just because I didn’t want an outside running back. As an ex-lineman, I’d rather see the Texans dominate the trenches than end up like the pre-Dungy Colts, all flash and no substance.
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July 13th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
@Demecoshallinherittheearth: And what do they both have in common??? Funky throwing motions. I wonder, I really do, if that is a commonality. You can add Kerry Collins to that mix, too.
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I don’t know how many people here know Tom House, who is a pitching guru. He actually uses a football to teach pitching mechanics.
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Baseball stresses accuracy far more than being a QB, and I believe some of these guys were able to get away with sloppy mechanics in college, but they can’t in the pros.
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BTW, Graham Harrell completed 71.8% of his passes, and Colt completed 68.3% in this past year.
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July 14th, 2008 at 11:48 am
@Foomey: I live up on the NW side too - just inside 1604, off of New Guilbeau. We can also hit up the BWW off of 151. That’s pretty close.
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We’ll just jump you in. It’ll be less awkward that way. Don’t worry, my girlfriend hits like… well, a girl.
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July 14th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
@SOLIS: What’s the BWW? And…who’s going to jump me? Is it a good “jump”, or the kind like Matt is afraid of…where my knees will get broken by a really pissed off football player?
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July 14th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
@SOLIS: Oh, wait…are we back on the “gang” thing here?
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July 14th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
@Demecoshallinherittheearth: Don’t ever compare VY’s college CAREER to Carr’s one good college year again!!
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July 15th, 2008 at 11:03 am
@Foomey: Buffalo Wild Wings = BWW
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And yes, it’s all about the gang.